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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2016 12:09:31 GMT -6
I'm having an issue with GHD. None of the seven heartwights have respawned, and I fail to understand the why. I do not use many mods
_001_ Morrowind.esm
_002_ Tribunal.esm
_003_ Bloodmoon.esm
_004_ Morrowind Patch v1.6.6_beta.esm
_005_ Great House Dagoth.esp
_006_ PW_+5LevelModifiers.esp
_007_ db_attack_fixed.esp
_008_ The Tribe Unmourned (GHD).esp
_009_ XE Sky Variations.esp
_010_ AltShieldsRemover.ESP
_011_ Talrivian's State-Based HP Mod v.2.2.esp
_012_ mel_teleportPlugin_1_3.esp
so it's unlikely to be a mod issue. But right now I'm stuck, because I have to talk to the guy to enter the cavern of the incarnate and I simply can't. The bad part is that I tried to enter without asking for help to the dagoth, but it seems I'm forced to talk to Tureynulal.
I also know that I basically missed half of the endgame content, because if none respawned, it seems they could have helped me later with my 'home'. Please help!
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Post by Lady MorningStar on Feb 15, 2016 12:22:24 GMT -6
How long has it been since you killed them? They take around seven game days to respawn.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2016 12:48:57 GMT -6
I don't know the exact time... but.. I waited around 14 days inside the secret vivec library before taking the tribunal notes to see if he would spawn or not. But he didn't..  And I guess also the others won't spawn... |
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Post by Lady MorningStar on Feb 15, 2016 17:39:43 GMT -6
If that much time has passed and they still are not spawning, you can always use the placeatpc command to place the new version of each Heartwight in his citadel.
Example command: placeatpc "dagoth glivoth_2" 1, 1, 1
The IDs for each brother:
dagoth vemyn_2
dagoth araynys_2
dagoth uthol_2
dagoth odros_2
dagoth endus_2
dagoth tureynul_2
dagoth gilvoth_2
It's possible that you're playing an older version of GHD, which did have issues with the Heartwight's respawning. As far as I know, the last version of the mod was 1.04.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2016 18:36:54 GMT -6
It worked. Thank you. Honestly I'm pretty pretty sad about this mod. I'm finding all kind of different issues, but it must be played by anyone that appreciates the subtlety of morrowind quest. I've found a few technical issue, and I think that if it was refined a little bit it would be OUTSTANDING material, surpassing even the main quest of morrowind. But right now in on par with it (not that it is not a bad achievement per se, but you know  ) Anyway, I've resurrected the guy but I'm getting asked to do the forth and the fifth trial even if I already have 55 reputation. IS that supposed to happen? |
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Post by Lady MorningStar on Feb 15, 2016 18:43:33 GMT -6
That's always happened in my game, even before I ever installed GHD.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2016 18:51:23 GMT -6
I have reloaded my savegame and this time I was asked to go directly into the high fane. But Dagoth Ur doesn't acknowledge the fact that I'm already appointed as the meeter of Vivec. Am I forced to go through the forth and fifth path? DO I have to lower my reputation on purpose?
What do you suggest?
So far, that's the issues I've met:
> Some of the slepeers\ash vampires were hostile to me even after the transformation (shouldn't happen)
> The heartwights didn't respawn sadly
> The transformation made me lose a lot of carriage capability (more an annoying factor than anything else - had to drop everything on the ground and go check Dagoth Ur)
> one or two errors in the words ( I remember one when Dagoth tells you the story of what happened at red Mountain, the other I don't remember , sorry)
I'm using version 1.04.
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Post by Lady MorningStar on Feb 15, 2016 19:02:32 GMT -6
Dagoth Ur doesn't have dialog to acknowledge the "short path" through the main quest (ie. going to Vivec early when you have a high repuatation). It's been a while since I've opened the mod in the construction set, but I believe to get each GHD journal entry you need to complete the Fourth and Fifth Trials. The "coming out of the shadows" is very important part of the GHD version of the main quest.
Keep in mind that you are never forced to do anything. If you really really don't want to go through those trials, just go on to the High Fane and try to talk to Vivec. And keep in mind that by doing this you're not really keeping to the GHD version of the main quest and will miss some of Dagoth Ur's dialog.
SPOILER:
Depending on any previous choices you've made, Vivec may or may not talk to you.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2016 19:04:34 GMT -6
Dagoth Ur doesn't have dialog to acknowledge the "short path" through the main quest (ie. going to Vivec early when you have a high repuatation). It's been a while since I've opened the mod in the construction set, but I believe to get each GHD journal entry you need to complete the Fourth and Fifth Trials. The "coming out of the shadows" is very important part of the GHD version of the main quest. Keep in mind that you are never forced to do anything. If you really really don't want to go through those trials, just go on to the High Fane and try to talk to Vivec. And keep in mind that by doing this you're not really keeping to the GHD version of the main quest and will miss some of Dagoth Ur's dialog. SPOILER: Depending on any previous choices you've made, Vivec may or may not talk to you. May I ask what are the 'choices' I'm supposed to make to make Vivec be diplomatic with me? Because I frankly missed them I saw a walkthrough around and it acknowledges that Vivec can only be hostile, and nothing else. I tried entering Vivec's room and he is quite hostile. |
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Post by Lady MorningStar on Feb 15, 2016 19:10:50 GMT -6
If you killed the Ordinator that Dagoth Araynys sent you to talk to, then Vivec will never talk to you. You have to help the Ordinator to escape in order for Vivec to be willing to give you a chance and speak with you.
Your only choice with Vivec now is to kill him and take Wraithguard from his corpse, but I don't think Dagoth Ur will acknowledge that you have it unless you complete the Fourth and Fifth trials. After you have those journal entries then he sends you to Vivec to get Wraithguard.
Personally, I always ignore the "go to the High Fane" early message and proceed with my game as though it never happened, but I'm one who wants every moment that the main quest has to offer.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2016 19:12:52 GMT -6
thank you for the patience. Honestly I didn't do that quest. Am I doomed? Is there a console variable I could use to force Vivec to talk with me?
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Post by Lady MorningStar on Feb 15, 2016 19:17:51 GMT -6
None that I know of. I'm hoping that Mad God comes by this evening and sees this thread. Being the creator of the mod, he would likely have a better idea of how to work around this than I do.
The mod is deliberately set up to give the player more choices than many people are aware of, but there are consequences to those choices. You're a member of Great House Dagoth, so Vivec is not going to like you and will see you as an enemy who should be destroyed (which is to be expected).
Again, being able to talk to Vivec when using GHD is not actually needed in order to finish the mod, but you do need the corresponding journal entries to move through each section.
To be honest I think your best bet is to do what Dagoth Ur's current dialog is telling you to do, but this is your game. You know what you have the patience for.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2016 12:32:26 GMT -6
Thank you for the help,
Another issue I've found is that the slave does not acknowledge the daedric ruins and doesn't fire up the dialog of it being my next home.
By the way, can I do the tasks after having killed and resurrected the dagoths?
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Post by Lady MorningStar on Feb 16, 2016 12:39:11 GMT -6
No. After you have beaten them you outrank them, so they will no longer give you tasks to do. And if you didn't do their quests, I don't believe the resurrected versions of the Heartwights ever offer improvements to your citadel.
I'm not sure what is going on there. Exactly what does the ash slave say when you talk to him within the ruins?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2016 14:20:19 GMT -6
I've now finished that part (I've just chosen the dwever ruin where the script fired properly), but anyway in the daedric ruin the slave kept asking me if I had to follow him or not.  |
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And I guess also the others won't spawn...
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